Backup of *.wav

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GeTe

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Want to make backup of wavefiles on CD in order to save HD-space and to be able to reinstall the files later for futher editing as *.wav. What is the best way? as Mp3, zip or something else?
 
Des

Des

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Exactly.. save them as mp3 data preferebly on a cd-rw and when you are eady just transfer them over to your h/drive convert them back to wav for firther editing .. then burn them to audio cd when your ready
 
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Zoltan

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Why don't you just write them as audio CD in the first place? This way you'll retain the full quality of the wavs and be able to do whatever you want later on. Just a thought.
 
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GeTe

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Zoltan said:
Why don't you just write them as audio CD in the first place? This way you'll retain the full quality of the wavs and be able to do whatever you want later on. Just a thought.
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Those wavefiles I talk about are mostly recordings made from LP's and reeltapes and you never get satisfied over the final result. When working with sounds you all the time learn new things about how to make it sound better. Thats why I want to keep them as "spare parts".
 
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cdorders

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Originally Posted by GeTe: Those wavefiles I talk about are mostly recordings made from LP's and reeltapes and you never get satisfied over the final result. When working with sounds you all the time learn new things about how to make it sound better. Thats why I want to keep them as "spare parts".
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There several methods of compressing any wav file, either it is a production of some Audio progs, or a movie file extraction, or any other type of recording. The thing is the amount of quality loss. Since you have bucked up recording's from LPs you should ming having better a good soundcard and a good phono preamp rather than worrying about the data loss in the compression. Of course since you like the best quality, thew best way is to back up the wave files to an Audio CD rather than compressing them. The only drwaback (if anyone can call this), is the big amount of data that will fit on each CD. But this big amount assures that no (or even the less) quality is lost. Good Luck ;)
 
Fox Mulder

Fox Mulder

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And if you want to fit even more than in CD Audio, and have better error correction, you can use something like Monkeys Audio(lossless digital audio compression like WinZIP, but for music).
w*w.monkeysaudio.com
 
sabio

sabio

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I think mp3 is not a bad option, but to keep the full quality of the original wav, select at the mp3 encoder software you choose, a sample rate of 256 or 320.
 
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GeTe

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Thanks for your help and I will start with the "Monkeys" and see what comes out. I think the initial quality is quite good as I for LP's work with a Thorens TD 165 TT and a Terratec phono amplifier. My Soundcad is a Terratec EWS64S. For audiocassettes I use a Nakamichi 550 recorder and for reels a ReVox A77.
 
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cdorders

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I am an audiophile and work as a DJ. Everytime the right equippment is the A and Z of a success in the listening result. Your gear is very good and I would recommend either to save your wave data to a CD as it is with programs like Feurio or EAC (Exact Audio Copy) which are specialized for Audio use, or to compress (as already mentioned) to MP3s at higher bitrates (256 or 320 Kbps) and with high quality encoder. I use for MP3 compression the Audioactive MP3 Production Studio which is a high quality and expensive encoder that can compress even at 128 Kbps at near CD quality, while others need to achieve that at a bitrate over 192K. It not so fast, but surely reliable and stable. I would recommend to give it a try. Download it from _http://www.audioactive.com. I will give you a License code to use it as the Pro version if you want to. Good Luck.
 
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cdorders

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BTW, in what system do you have your Terratec card installed? I thing all Terratec EWS-64 series were ISA cards. Your gear is perfect for LP recordings and much more.
 
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LTR12101B

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h**p://home.wanadoo.nl/~w.speek/comparison.htm
Comparison of lossless encoders - looks like Monkeys is as good a choice as any.

Lossless encoding will allow you to fit a full-quality, CD-size WAV file, onto a CD as DATA instead of Audio (otherwise you'd need a 90 min CD to take a 74 min WAV collection)

So why not burn your "source master" to audio CD anyway?
Because it then needs to be CD-ripped, with limited error correction and possible rip problems.

Conventional archivers, unless they have a "multimedia" option, will be lucky to compress wav files at all!
 
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Master

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I wouldn´t use the terratec amp.

I f you have a Thorens turntable the you will have an amplifier with an magnetic preamp phono input too.

Use this device insteed of the terratec preamp.

(every Technics,Sony,Kenwood,Yamaha,Onkyo,.. device is better, )

Terratec soundcards are a good choice but you should look for a cheap dmx 6fire lt...about 110-120 €

Don´t save the files as a compressed mp3 file...save them as a wav file. You don´t need data reduction for your problem this wiil give you low quality copies only.

Don´t believe the MP3 freaks...mp3 is crippled sound only

Eac and/or feurio will do a good job for you.
 
cdorders

cdorders

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You can go to

_http://npsux2507.boom.ru/main.htm

and select the encoders tab at the left side to see all MP3 Encoders available and how they perform. Of course there are all famous encoders like Fraunhofer, Lame, Xing etc as well as the Audioactive production Studio. I haven't checked thorougly the monkeysaudio compression type as I store files only in MP3 or cda (Audio CD) format, so I cannot have an opinion to this.
 
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cdorders

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Originally posted by Master: I f you have a Thorens turntable the you will have an amplifier with an magnetic preamp phono input too.

Use this device insteed of the terratec preamp.
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OK, but his AMP may not have any Tape Out/Line Out free (or the main tape loop (if there is only one) may be needed for any standalone recorder anytime( ie Tape Recorder, DAT, etc) and there is no other free loop to connect the AMP to the PC (especially if there is an old Amplifier like one Rotel I own). If instead of the Amplifier, a Mixer is used, then the quality is not so good and is surely not above the quality of the Terratec phono preamp, unless the Mixer is a Pioneer DJM Series or a HQ and expensive Numark, Denon or Vestax.
 
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Master

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@cdorders

i don´t see the problem..for some recordings he can disconnect some inputs/outputs . It´s very simple



Don´t start this with me...i think you know what i mean
 
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catachresis

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FLAC is a great option for compressing wav files. Do a search in these forums for more info

OR go here:
h**p://flac.sourceforge.net/
 
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GeTe

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Monkey looks good for my needs. Abt. 50% compression and when decompressing to wave it looks the same compared to the original file so I can continue edit it in CoolEdit 2.0 but better was if I could open it direct with CoolEdit but you can't have it all.
 
cdorders

cdorders

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I don't know if there is any plugin for monkeys audio for CoolEdit. There is an MP3 plugin and some studio plugins. I will check monkeys audio it sounds interesting.
 
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GeTe

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@cdorders
regarding the soundcard Terratec EWS64S, yes it is an old card for ISA-bus and I use it on a pretty old Soyo SY-6VBA133 M/B and a P3-650 CPU with 4x128Mb PC-100. I have several other soundcards available but is there anything to win in changing to a newer PCI-card. This specific computer is ONLY used for recording and editing sounds mostly from, as said before, 20-30 years old LP's and tapes. Last tape I transferred to cd was live recording from 1959.
 
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